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	<title>Comments on: Black Mormons straddle two worlds on 30th anniversary</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin Barney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, I&#039;ll share some off the cuff thoughts on your question.

First, I think there was a strong stare decisis [&quot;to stand upon prior decisions&quot;] effect.  During most of the time the ban was in place, it was not a high priority issue, for the simple reason that the Church was in no way unusual vis-a-vis the larger society.  So it was sort of a back burner issue.  The issue began to come to the fore in the wake of the civil rights movement, and for the last quarter-century of the existence of the ban it started to become a front burner issue.  But church leaders at this time were at something of a disadvantage, because the policy had been in place for so very long, and none of their predecessors had seen fit to change it, that the default assumption was that there must have been a sound revelatory reason for the policy in the first place.  Church leaders do not overturn more than a century of precedent lightly.  And we have to remember that at that time they did not have the sound historical research on this subject that we do today (such as the early work of Bush, Mauss and Bringhurst).  They were operating from a position of a lack of historical knowledge about the origins of the ban.

Second, I don&#039;t think God micromanages our leaders.  They remain mortal, fallible men, steeped in the cultures in which they live.

Third, the 1890 Manifesto and its aftermath was a very traumatic development for the Church, the effects of which we are still experiencing today, and the leaders of the time were not anxious to reverse course like that a second time.

I realize this is not a complete answer to your question, but it suggests some factors to consider in thinking about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, I&#8217;ll share some off the cuff thoughts on your question.</p>
<p>First, I think there was a strong stare decisis ["to stand upon prior decisions"] effect.  During most of the time the ban was in place, it was not a high priority issue, for the simple reason that the Church was in no way unusual vis-a-vis the larger society.  So it was sort of a back burner issue.  The issue began to come to the fore in the wake of the civil rights movement, and for the last quarter-century of the existence of the ban it started to become a front burner issue.  But church leaders at this time were at something of a disadvantage, because the policy had been in place for so very long, and none of their predecessors had seen fit to change it, that the default assumption was that there must have been a sound revelatory reason for the policy in the first place.  Church leaders do not overturn more than a century of precedent lightly.  And we have to remember that at that time they did not have the sound historical research on this subject that we do today (such as the early work of Bush, Mauss and Bringhurst).  They were operating from a position of a lack of historical knowledge about the origins of the ban.</p>
<p>Second, I don&#8217;t think God micromanages our leaders.  They remain mortal, fallible men, steeped in the cultures in which they live.</p>
<p>Third, the 1890 Manifesto and its aftermath was a very traumatic development for the Church, the effects of which we are still experiencing today, and the leaders of the time were not anxious to reverse course like that a second time.</p>
<p>I realize this is not a complete answer to your question, but it suggests some factors to consider in thinking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Chambers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Chambers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a 5th generation member of the church who grow up in San Diego. I grew up in a completely integrated neighbor. Their were whites, blacks, hispanics, and philippinos living in my neighborhood. I never saw any racism at home, in school, or in public. I was taught by my parents to love and respect people of all races. When I was a child I know that blacks could be baptized, but could not hold the priesthood. I knew that any black that was baptised and endured to the end would be saved in the celestial kingdom. I felt in my heart that one day they would be given the priesthood, according to the Lord&#039;s timetable, and I should not question God who is the leader of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I remeber when I heard the news that Spencer W Kimball and the twelve apostles  had received the revelation that give blacks the priesthood I cried and and was very thankful. I have always wondered why some members of the church question the prophet. Don&#039;t they know that the prophet will never lead the Lord&#039;s people astray? We need to focus on our commonalities and not our differences. I am so thankfu for my membership in the church and I love all people of different cultures, races, and ethnic groups.

Thank you for your time. Roger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a 5th generation member of the church who grow up in San Diego. I grew up in a completely integrated neighbor. Their were whites, blacks, hispanics, and philippinos living in my neighborhood. I never saw any racism at home, in school, or in public. I was taught by my parents to love and respect people of all races. When I was a child I know that blacks could be baptized, but could not hold the priesthood. I knew that any black that was baptised and endured to the end would be saved in the celestial kingdom. I felt in my heart that one day they would be given the priesthood, according to the Lord&#8217;s timetable, and I should not question God who is the leader of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I remeber when I heard the news that Spencer W Kimball and the twelve apostles  had received the revelation that give blacks the priesthood I cried and and was very thankful. I have always wondered why some members of the church question the prophet. Don&#8217;t they know that the prophet will never lead the Lord&#8217;s people astray? We need to focus on our commonalities and not our differences. I am so thankfu for my membership in the church and I love all people of different cultures, races, and ethnic groups.</p>
<p>Thank you for your time. Roger</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Matheson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Matheson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 01:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I come from a white Mormon family, raised in Utah who has questioned race issues in the church for years and have had all issues resolved to my satisfaction with the exception of one, which I would like some help with. Our church officials and especially our presidencies are divinely inspired. We believe our prophets to be divinely chosen by God, who communicate directly with God on a regular basis to receive guidance and revelation; so why did He allow Brigham Young to place a ban on African Americans holding the priesthood without correction and clarification? -Especially after Joseph Smith had already given the priesthood to members of African decent. Furthermore, how did the &#039;ban&#039; remain in effect for nearly a hundred and fifty years?
If you have any insight regarding this issue I would greatly appreciate some input.
Thank you for your faith,
Jeremy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I come from a white Mormon family, raised in Utah who has questioned race issues in the church for years and have had all issues resolved to my satisfaction with the exception of one, which I would like some help with. Our church officials and especially our presidencies are divinely inspired. We believe our prophets to be divinely chosen by God, who communicate directly with God on a regular basis to receive guidance and revelation; so why did He allow Brigham Young to place a ban on African Americans holding the priesthood without correction and clarification? -Especially after Joseph Smith had already given the priesthood to members of African decent. Furthermore, how did the &#8216;ban&#8217; remain in effect for nearly a hundred and fifty years?<br />
If you have any insight regarding this issue I would greatly appreciate some input.<br />
Thank you for your faith,<br />
Jeremy</p>
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